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General Category / The Playground / Re: The Prancing Pony
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on: October 14, 2006, 06:13:35 PM
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*fingers and eyes twitch from lack of tea* *panicky voice* Is there enough sugar? I just bought a buttload of it at wal*mart, but I poured it all in my last cup. *licks lips, while staring at Wolf's teapot* I wish I was British.
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General Category / The Debating Society / Re: Evolution vs. Creation
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on: October 14, 2006, 04:44:02 PM
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"God good to all, or just a few? PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them."
I don't have much time so I can only correct a few. This one can easily be disproven by a quote from Job.
"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord."
A Just God punishes those who continuously sin, and torment others. Jeremiah was one of the books of prophecy that declares God's judgement on rebellious, and ignorant nations.
"Who is the father of Joseph? MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli."
I agree with IM: Not only could Luke have been speaking of ancestry and not parentry, but also, if you would take a close look, you'll see that Luke calls Matthan((named in Matthew 1:15 I believe.)) Matthat. Names differ according to each Disciple.
"Next to that: how can you question a theory you barely even know? Humans didn't descend from monkeys, according to the theory of evolution... Please get your facts straight."
Then could you please inform me what the heck evolutionists do believe? Because over all these changes that they make in their beliefs, I don't see how one evolutionist could possibly agrtee with another!
"I'm terrible sorry, but I clearly missed all that evidence. Do you have some concrete examples? I actually never read an article with some proof that it is possible to create the earth and its surroundings and inhabitants in a couple of days. Neither have I seen proof that a man can resurrect from death. And those are quite critical points when it comes to proving the Bible to be correct."
Nor have I read any article that proves that nothing can "explode" into something. Can you tell me how nothing((I'm assuming this refers to a vacuum)) can explode? As far as I know, nothing((again a vacuum,)) implodes, and only when it has an object of matter about it. I have never read an article that has shown solid proof that any one thing can change into another. Neither I, nor any other person in the history of this earth has ever seen something in the proccess of evolution.
"And again: the sun is not shrinking, it's growing..."
Could you tell me how the heck the sun can grow when it is burning whatever fuels it? Can a fire continue to grow larger when the substance it is burning is nothing but ash??? No, the fire decreases, until it is gone.
"How can two people who never met eachother or talked to eachother tell exactly the same 'lie'? And not on one occasion, but on many occasions."
I already said I don't know how they came to the results they did, and I can't disprove everything they said, nor can I prove everything I say, so I'll leave it at that.
"One doesn't believe in evolution; it is not a religion."
Now that's just ignorant. Newton's Laws of Gravity are believed in, that doesn't make them a religion. Things can be believed in, without making them a religion. Yes, one does believe in evolution. You can't believe on it!
"I have seen several articles and (television) programs that explore the events of the Bible and relate them to real-life happenings in history, but realize that the Bible was probably the writers' interpretation of what really happened. There really were several abnormal climatic conditions during that period that could have been the source."
I have seen articles like these as well. That doesn't mean that what they say is true, and definitely doesn't mean that what they say is what I believe. In fact most of those shows quote from twisted versions of God's Word, such as NIV. I assume that your post is attacking the plenary verbal inspirationn of the Bible, so I will answer with this quote:
The Bible must be the invention of good men or angels, bad men or devils, or of God. 1.) It could not be the invention of good men or angels; for they neither would nor could make a book, and tell lies all the time they were writing it, saying "Thus saith the Lord," when it was their own invention. 2.) It could not be the invention of bad men or devils; for they would not make a book which commands all duty, forbids all sin, and condemns their souls to hell to all eternity. 3.) Therefore, I draw this conclusion, that the Bible must be given by divine inspiration. ~John Wesley
"Cite."
I don't know. I read it in a school-book in like eighth grade, or something. I looked it up on Wikipedia, but they just say a bunch of crap about how in 4-5 billion years it will burn up or something. I rest my case on this, as I'm not sure what I believe about it.
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Lord Of the Rings / The Movies / Re: Christofer(Saruman)Lee
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on: October 14, 2006, 04:03:13 PM
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Now, now folks. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Andy Serkis was up in the tops, if not at the very top. Ian McKellan(sp?) was also a fine portait of his character. But Christopher Lee was one of the greatest on there, but I cannot say quite the greatest. As for Liv Tyler, I personally never have liked her. Not only for the fact that she takes on a position in the cinema version of LOTR that she did not have in the book, but also because she was a rather horrible actor. If Tolkien were watching, I believe he'd be quite disgusted by the role Arwen played in the cinemas, being one of battle, and swordsmanship, intwined with romance. Tolkien, in fact kept her quite apart from the books. No offense to women, of course.
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General Category / The Debating Society / Re: Evolution vs. Creation
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on: October 13, 2006, 01:59:10 PM
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Wolf, as for the jawbone of Lucy, I referred to the wrong thing. The jawbone of Lucy is a thing I know little about. Just a bit from watching a movie. I meant to refer to a different instance in which a man's skeleton was discovered, and scientists claimed that it was an ape-man's because it was very bent over, but many of those scientists backed out on there claims, when it was found that it was actually the skeleton of a man with arthritis. I'll have to look up on this later.
There are many reasons I believe the Bible, and here are just a couple: 1.) The Bible contains 66 books. Each books is exactly cooperative((for lack of a better word.)) with every single one of the others. Every book of the Old Testament that had prophecy concerning Jesus' life, death, resurrection, and second coming are perfectly fulfilled in the New Testament. There is not a single word that contradicts another! 2.) The Bible is massive. Thousands of names, stories, prophecies of our future, and prophecies fulfilled are contained within it. NOT EVEN TOLKIEN COULD WRITE A BOOK THAT DETAILED OR ACCURATE! The Bible is accurate, historically, as well as morally((In that it provides for a much better way of living.)) 3.) Because I can feel the Holy Spirit working in me each and every day. 4.) Because the Bible((unlike evolution)) provides for a better way of life, a hope of eternal joy, and a Comforter on this earth! Evolution tells me I was once nothing, then organic soup, then bacteria, fish, and monkeys, till I'm finally me! It tells me I'm going to die, and enter a void! What fun!
"The Theory of Evolution is not a religion in any way. Neither are (for example) the Laws of Newton, even though you don't question them."
Whatever, dude. You do your thing I'll do mine.
"Evidence is provided in a lot of scientifical articles and (what's easier to get to) in newspapers (on occasion) and on a huge number of websites. If you use google, you will be able to find your requested evidence. Whether to believe this evidence or not is up to you, but simply ignoring the fact that a fossile (dated with carbon-dating) is in no way as old as they say, is also ignoring various other theories concerning atoms and ions."
Evidence of the Bible is provided in a lot of scientifical articles, newspapers, and on a huge number of websites as well: I believe a book that is completely infalliable, has never been changed except by accidental mistranslations and such, does not contradict itself, nor have those who penned it ever went back on it. Evolution, however, is constantly being changed, over and over. I don't even know what they say is the "exact" date of the earth, because it went from millions, to hundreds of millions, to billions, to hundreds of billions! Many "discoveries" have been proven wrong, and in many more those that "discovered" these things, later went back on them! Many of your "scientific" arguements contradict each other, as well as nature itself! You still haven't explained how the sun could be "much smaller" four hundred billion years ago, when it shrinks five feet per hour!
I don't know how scientists date things, and I don't know how they erred, or lied to the entire world, I simply believe that in some way they did. Just like, many on this site believe that George Bush lied to us about WMD, while they can't explain how, and others believe that he did it unintentionally, and yet others believe that Saddam moved the WMD out before we got there!
"This story is an urban legend. Darwin's family even denied that Elizabeth Hope (who told the story) was near his deathbed at all. This was written in an article by Darwin's daughter: "I was present at his deathbed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A. ... ...The whole story has no foundation whatever."
Then, each of us are believing the word of people we have never met, and neither of us can prove our opinions.
"Let me, in turn, ask you a question: why are you reasons to believe in creation?
Edit: And what is the main reason why you deny all evidence for evolution? Is it because you think the evidence is not good enough or flawed or is it because it cannot be unified with your belief?"
I already stated my opinions about my belief's and plenty about why I don't believe in evolution.
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General Category / The Playground / Re: The Stupid Game
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on: October 13, 2006, 01:07:59 PM
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Sorry, Scroll, the rules are that your answer can't be an answer. Quite confusing. In saying Pee Wee Herman, you guessed another person, which makes sense. -1st Christina
Gil-Galad, were you saying that you are lost, or was your answer Lost, as in the TV show?
Next question:
"How many people live on the bottom of my shoes?" ((Remember, don't guess a number.))
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Other works / The Hobbit / Re: There and Back Again
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on: October 13, 2006, 01:03:32 PM
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Aye, the Troll part was awesome. I love it when the good guys get the loot. lol. The Hobbit was more understandable, and a bit less descriptive, but I think LOTR had a much better plot.
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General Category / The Playground / The Stupid Game
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on: October 11, 2006, 02:22:17 PM
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This is a game introduced to me by one of my bro's friends. It's kind of like a cross between Caption Competition, and Word Association. It goes like this: I ask a question, and you guys have to say something really stupid. The rules are these: Any answers that could actually be applied to the question are illegal. For instance, if I say "What's 2 + 2?", and someone answers with "Five," even if it's not the right answer, it still could answer the question. I'll probably give two days between each question, and proclaim the winners each time. Here's what the whole thing ought to look like:
ME: "Who's the leader of Iran at the moment?"
Someone Else: 49!
Another person: Flippancy!!
Flippancy wins, eh?
So, here's the first, real question-please answer as stupidly as possible:
"If x = John Kerry, and y = Alan Jackson, what does k =?"
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