Iran

[LOTRfan1414]

What do you think about Iran, are they really dangerous nuclear threats, or are they just bluffing?

[numenorian]

It's true that they have nuclear weapons.Every country that has nuclear weapons is dangerous.Though i believe nothin will happen and if the matter is going to be solved the political way will do this cause Iraq has future much future.

[Beren One-Hand]

Iran's dangerous for sure.  I read a report the other day stating that they had supplied the insurgents in Iraq with weapons.  When allied forces came across these weapons, they found they were from Iran.  I mean look at Iran's president.  He doesn't look like your friendly neighbourhood Spiderman, does he?   

[LOTRfan1414]

But do we have the right to invade them? They are sending weapons to the insurgents in IRaq.

[Beren One-Hand]

It's kind of a vicious circle, isn't it?  Because, really, where does this war on terror really end?  I would say at this point the Allies shouldn't invade them.  But probably the deeper you go with this thing the more complicated it gets.  Who might else be implicated?  We don't really know.  All I can say is Iran is shaddy and probably shouldn't be trusted.

[mtajim]

You say Iran is giving weapons to insurgents , but just look in other way , america too has Nuke weapons and they also have a history of giving weapong to rebel groups , in many countries ,   US has played a huge role in partition of USSR by providing Ammos to rebels

[kisna]

I wonder is that even proved yet that Iran is giving nuke weapons to insurgents? Btw mtajim what is USSR?

[Ricardo]

Did anyone here read Daniel Ellesberg's article in Harper's last year saying that the US plans to invade Iran?

I found that interesting considering he was the one to publish The Pentagon Papers which exposed the US government's deceit about Viet Nam.

[Pulsifer]

Iran's a country with a population of nearly 70 million. Comparatively, Iraq has 26 million. In Iraq, there were pro-coalition, pro-interventionist forces all militarized, popularized and ready to go. In Iran, those forces number less than a tenth of those in Iraq, in a country with three times the population.

Further, if the US invaded Iran, both Syria and Saudi Arabia would most likely get involved. You would not like those odds. Any hint of an invasion would probably be the greatest favour the US could do Pan-Arabian middle eastern politicians, almost certainly accomplishing what Israel only narrowly avoided in the 70s; a gathered, united Muslim middle east Europe.

As if I needed to compound the point, Russia and TPRA China has guaranteed for Iran's borders, akin to what England and France did for Poland in 1939.

An invasion of Iran is . . . not viable.

[numenorian]

Just a question.Is iran a bigger threat than the united 'liberty' forces of America and europe?Who has the most nuclear weapons and who terrifies the most the "terorists" or the "victims"?

[Beren One-Hand]

numenorian: good question.  However, who would you trust more with those weapons?  The US and Western Europe?  Or the terrorists?

[numenorian]

none of them of course..btw who was the first who used them terrorists or the west?

[Beren One-Hand]

Probably the West.  But I believe that when they have been used in the past, by say the US, that there has been more logic and rationalle behind their usage than when or if "terrorists" used them, or were to use them.  When the US dropped the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima during WWII, it was viewed as the only way to stop the Japenese threat to Asia and America (probably also the  rest of the West).  The Japanese had terrorized much of oriental Asia and had done so brutally.  The brass in America at the time viewed the attack also from the amount of American lives that would have to be sacrificed just to make a foothold in Japan.  One cannot also forget that it was Japan who really provoked the US by attacking Pearl Harbour.

[numenorian]

the things you say do make sense but who supplies them with nuclear weapons?In addition which country has the biggest supplies of nuclear weapons and need to use tem the most?I don't think its Iran but the guys that pretend to be the "liberators of mankind"(America who else)

[Beren One-Hand]

I believe Iran has their own nuclear testing program, which is where much of the controversy lies in their dispute with the West.  But I would say that you're right, that it would seem obvious that the US would have the largest supply of nukes, as compared to any other nation, although this could not neccessarily be proven, but just speculated upon.