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« on: January 15, 2008, 04:49:58 PM »

Well i have recently recieved an e-mail that goes something like this

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"Subject: Who is Barack Obama?

Probable Democrat presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their equevelancy to our Bible, but very different beliefs)

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!"




personally i believe its a bunch of BS, but i was wondering if anyone got the same email, or if anyone else had any views?
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2008, 11:07:18 PM »

[/Evidence plz!]

People will always find ways to distort information about their opponents.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 08:02:10 PM »

Bunch of bollocks.

The article makes the following claims;

1) Barack Obama is a muslim.

2) Obama was enrolled and taught in a Wahabi school, and that Wahabiism is a radical form of Islam. (On a side note, I love how it's RADICAL) Further, they insinuate that the Wahabi school is akin to a madrassa.

The above claims are supposed to lead to the conclusion that Obama wants to bring down the US from the top down, nevermind the system of checks and balances.

To address the first claim, Obama swore in on his own personal copy of the bible, not the so-called Kuran. (Qur'an or Koran) Vice President Dick Cheney himself checked and testified that it was, indeed, a Bible, in his role as president of the Senate. (If this is in doubt, check out the two press reports from January 2005, when it happened. It is mentioned in both)

Further, Obama himself claims that he chose his own religion in his twenties. Since he's now 47 years old, that's a real long-term plan . . . While nothing I say can detract nutshit batters from thinking that secretly, in his heart, he's a muslim, one should also consider that there haven't been any mention of an anti-christian or pro-muslim tendencies in his policies as Senator for Illinois. Obama himself says he's a member of the Christian faith and described his father as "raised muslim, but pretty much a confirmed atheist before my parents met."

2) Obama was indeed enrolled in local schools in his period in Jakarta. However, the claim that wahabiism is  a radical sect hellbent on training terrorists (In 1967-1972, at that . . .)  - well, I find it suspect on the border to implausible. Wahabiism, a direction in the Salafism interpretation of the Qur'an, also dictates that the "student" does not readily and unconditionally accept the wisdom of his fathers or his teachers, but rather try to find the truth out of the Qur'an and the Sunnah for himself.

While wahabiism is a rather (very) conservative subgroup of Islam, and I personally find it quite suspect, it's violent streak notable rose into prominence in the late eighties and early nineties - i.e. 20 years after Obama attended a school for four years.

Now, if you want Obama's own words on faith, I suggest you read through (or listen, if you can find it availible) his speech on the "Way Forward" in which he also addresses the doubts about his own faith, can be found here. It's a very well written speech, and I commend him for that. (Even though he comes off as a far more Bible-thumping person than I'd personally like)
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 11:47:40 PM »

*coughswhats-wrong-with-a-Bible-thumpercough*

I was going to say, man, can you say biased much? 
It sounds like a bunch of bologne to me...
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2008, 09:07:36 AM »

These are the type of things that make me love the US Presidential election. Its truly the most entertaining show on Earth.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 01:40:39 PM »

Chtulhu 2008.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 08:14:06 PM »

I think all that there is to Obama's Muslim connection lies with the fact that his step-father was a Muslim.  The rest I think has been blown out of proportion.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 08:52:22 PM »

But a relative's being Muslim has nothing to do with him! Even if he were, it should be of little to no public concern. The sad thing is, a significant portion of the said general public still believes this crap.
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