Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
July 30, 2010, 12:17:45 PM
Home Help Search Login Register
News: Middle Earth Talk upgrade, the old interface everybody hates is gone gone gone

+  Middle Earth Talk
|-+  General Category
| |-+  The Debating Society
| | |-+  Should The Americans pull out of Iraq?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 7 Print
Author Topic: Should The Americans pull out of Iraq?  (Read 15947 times)
Christina
Full Member
***

Karma: +2/-0
Posts: 168


Why would I, or anyone else, want to know THAT?!


View Profile
« on: September 07, 2006, 12:58:22 PM »

I've been hearing a lot on the news now about how President Bush should pull the troops out of the middle east... My opinon is that now is not the right time to just yet... what about ya'll... how do ya'll feel about this?
Logged

(\__/)
(='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste
(")_(")bunny to your signature to help him gain world domination

My myspace...
www.myspace.com/sango23

Wolfchild
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +11/-4
Posts: 581


Take me home.


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2006, 03:33:54 PM »

I feel that he should pull out as soon as possible, before he causes any more turmoil and damage. Not that Iraq hasn't been being, shall we say, resiliant, but pouring more troops into what is growing in to be a mass slaughter is only going to provoke more carnage and aid the stirring of trouble. I think Bush's (and Blair's) 'eye for an eye' attitude is a rediculous way to act in this day and age, and the sooner they withdraw the troops and end this worldwide suffering the better it will be on the hearts of us all. Settling a dispute is one thing, but this war is going way too far.
Logged

Thorongil
Guest
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2006, 08:06:19 PM »

I have to disagree with you. People forget to put things in perspective. If the U.S.A. would pull out their troops ASAP out of Iraq I can guarantee it leaves a vacuum behind. Thus allowing a total civil war to break out which will turn the country into chaos, leading to a whole lot more suffering than nowadays occurs. The war on terrorism is won by the one who has the longest breath (bad english), keeps fighting. Eventually we will prevail.
Logged
Wolfchild
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +11/-4
Posts: 581


Take me home.


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2006, 07:40:51 AM »

I don't think it is possible to have more suffering in Iraq than already occurs. Yes maybe, if we fight on there will be a victory on someone's part. But what then? You say it would be disasterous to pull them out immediately, but how many innocent men from either side have to be sacrificed if we keep it going for whatever many years? It just seems like a Catch-22 situation. I don't think now it is at the stage where it is a good-versus-evil war, I think it is an evil-versus-evil war, and whoever does eventually 'prevail' should be concerned with what it took to get there. We don't even know what purpose there is in this war anymore- it has long been forgotten, hidden under politician's and leader's excuses, and only in recent years has the truth been exposed. It's a complete shambles now, and the sooner it is put to an end the better.
Logged

Pulsifer
Full Member
***

Karma: +12/-3
Posts: 113


Not all those who wonder are lost.


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2006, 09:34:17 AM »

Iraq will have a civil war, Coalition or no. Support for the occupation is dropping, but Bush will not pull out before he can rewrite reality to such a degree that pulling out does not so much equal defeat.
Logged

www.ndesign.dk

"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
- W. C. Fields
numenorian
Full Member
***

Karma: +3/-4
Posts: 172



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2006, 09:51:12 AM »

Yankees go home
Logged

The lord of water spoke
In the silence
Words of wisdom
I've seen the end of all
Be aware the storm gets closer
Andúnië
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +22/-3
Posts: 970



View Profile WWW
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2006, 07:44:04 PM »

In some areas, the U.S. troops are the only security for civilians. I believe there should be a plan to pull out, but not immediately. Leaving at such a critical point would only make things worse. This is no longer so much a victory/defeat situation as how long much of a difference can be made.
Logged

numenorian
Full Member
***

Karma: +3/-4
Posts: 172



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 02:13:40 AM »

man re ukiddin me have u seen tv?They bombed hospitals and most of the cictiims we re inoccent pl i just dont get it why do they have to stay there can u make peace with war?Perhaps u dont think it right if they want to help humanity why dont they look in their region little south their re many ppl suffering but i forgot their is no oil to the most of the countries their
Logged

The lord of water spoke
In the silence
Words of wisdom
I've seen the end of all
Be aware the storm gets closer
numenorian
Full Member
***

Karma: +3/-4
Posts: 172



View Profile
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 02:22:15 AM »

sth i forgot i dont sy that the others re better than the americans but i dont think they should bomb them cause ok i know that most of these guys re fanatics and they ve done the same the New York incident and stuff but if we all consider the best is for all humanity is to try to help them get out of the situation.I know this topic is not much related to Christinas post but is related to my previous one.Thats all peace
Logged

The lord of water spoke
In the silence
Words of wisdom
I've seen the end of all
Be aware the storm gets closer
Dennis
Newbie
*

Karma: +1/-1
Posts: 20


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2006, 09:43:35 PM »

man re ukiddin me have u seen tv?They bombed hospitals and most of the cictiims we re inoccent pl i just dont get it why do they have to stay there can u make peace with war?Perhaps u dont think it right if they want to help humanity why dont they look in their region little south their re many ppl suffering but i forgot their is no oil to the most of the countries their

Alas, you have fallen victim to the leftist propoganda machine. I'm afraid there's nothing more I can do.
Logged

Dennis: (Sort of) back by overwhelming popular demand.
I'm a member of the ZetaBoards Support Team.
Christina
Full Member
***

Karma: +2/-0
Posts: 168


Why would I, or anyone else, want to know THAT?!


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006, 12:44:23 PM »

Okay... I have to agree with some of u here... Iraq will have a civil war no matter what, and that it is some what a mass slaughter... but I still say that we souldn't pull out just yet. For if we do, then that's showing them that we have given up... that we don't care what they do anymore... which will make them attack us and others even more... we are trying to stop this... so that the next generation will not have to go through all of this... so I still say that we souldn't pull out yet!
Logged

(\__/)
(='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste
(")_(")bunny to your signature to help him gain world domination

My myspace...
www.myspace.com/sango23
Pulsifer
Full Member
***

Karma: +12/-3
Posts: 113


Not all those who wonder are lost.


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2006, 06:36:23 PM »

Okay... I have to agree with some of u here... Iraq will have a civil war no matter what, and that it is some what a mass slaughter... but I still say that we souldn't pull out just yet. For if we do, then that's showing them that we have given up... that we don't care what they do anymore... which will make them attack us and others even more... we are trying to stop this... so that the next generation will not have to go through all of this... so I still say that we souldn't pull out yet!

Oh, come on. Grow some perspective. You have multiple sides intent on pummeling the $#!+ out of each other and when that boil bursts, do you really believe Coalition-protected areas will be spared of the collateral?

You cannot stop this, any more than Britain could have stopped the American civil war. I don't like any of the sides in this conflict; I don't like their strict religious views, I don't like their system of theocracy, I don't like militant vigilantes and guerillas and I don't like doubleheaded artificial puppet governments. But guess what; I don't have to like it. Any government the US will be able to plant will be overthrown in a bloodbath exponentially many times worse than the current civil war will result in, as soon as the steel in that spine returns home.
Quote
Alas, you have fallen victim to the leftist propoganda machine. I'm afraid there's nothing more I can do.
Quote

That you did nothing in the first place notwithstanding, I agree. Don't drink the kool-aid, but don't beat yourself over the head with that sweet hammer of fuss, either.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2006, 09:28:21 PM by Gliowien » Logged

www.ndesign.dk

"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
- W. C. Fields
Andúnië
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +22/-3
Posts: 970



View Profile WWW
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2006, 09:09:36 PM »

Quote
You cannot stop this, any more than Britain could have stopped the American civil war. I don't like any of the sides in this conflict; I don't like their strict religious views, I don't like their system of theocracy, I don't like militant vigilantes and guerillas and I don't like doubleheaded artificial puppet governments. But guess what; I don't have to like it. Any government the US will be able to plant will be overthrown in a bloodbath exponentially many times worse than the current civil war will result in, as soon as the steel in that spine returns home.

Giving up is not a solution. Undoubtedly the US will suffer losses, and the Iraqi civilians as well, but completely withdrawing from this situation will only worsen, not improve it. This is about holding off as much violence for as long as possible. Remove the US troops, and what do you get? In this absence, terrorists, extremists, and the like would pour in, plunging the country into undeniable, inevitable civil war. The possibility of civil war is already very high, of course, but a small chance is better than none.
Logged

numenorian
Full Member
***

Karma: +3/-4
Posts: 172



View Profile
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2006, 03:09:52 PM »

Guys you talk about extremists terrorists that threat humanity dont let them brainwash you guys think for gods shake do you want me to   actually believe that american re going there to help the inoccent people?Have you ever seen the strongs helping the weak side?The answer is no.An other thing would you guys want someone take over your country and call you a terrorist?Who re the terrorists in this situation?I guess Americans.
Logged

The lord of water spoke
In the silence
Words of wisdom
I've seen the end of all
Be aware the storm gets closer
Pulsifer
Full Member
***

Karma: +12/-3
Posts: 113


Not all those who wonder are lost.


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2006, 03:30:31 PM »

Talking about brainwashing . . .
Logged

www.ndesign.dk

"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
- W. C. Fields
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 7 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.4 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC
Seo4Smf v0.2 © Webmaster's Talks
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!