Should The Americans pull out of Iraq?

[Brilthor]

FAN:First of all,Georgia is not in Europe,but in Asia.
Second,U.K.(by this I mean England) has always been different from the rest of Europe.They are perhaps even closer to America than Europe.They are the reason why there is so much discord in the EU.
Bosnia and Herzegovina,Romania,Albania,Ukraine,Latvia,Lithuania... are all very poor eastern,south-eastern countries who have to send soldiers in Iraq so the USA can send them money.Believe me,it is true.My county was in the same position,but we didn't want to send soldiers there and have lost money support from the USA.It is called blackmail.
That's all from me for now.
p.s. One of the main reasons UN is not perfect is the behaviour of the USA.This country does enything it wants no matter what the rest of the world thinks. 

[Beren One-Hand]

Brilthor: if I might ask, where are you from?

[Brilthor]

Beren One-Hand:You might ask. 
I come from Croatia.I am dying to know what information will LOTRFAN1414 now dig from Wikipedia... *sigh* 
p.s. Why are you asking?

[Beren One-Hand]

Hi Brilthor:  I was just curious, because I gauged that you were obviously not American, as I am not.  I am Canadian.  Wikipedia is okay.  But there are definitely much better sources, and I personally resist quoting from it as much as possible.  The obvious advantage with it is that it is readily accessible and easy to use.  I, myself, have a subscription to Microsoft Encart Online, which is leaps and bounds better than Wikipedia.  Overall, Microsoft Encarta is decent.  Although, I do prefer good "old fashioned" knowledge and information from books.

[Pulsifer]

How long is Bush going to be able to delay the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq?

If one could attribute sheerly malicious motives to Bush, one might be led to think that he's intending to leave a festering dungheap for the next administration, which will hardly be led by anyone from the GOP.

[LOTRfan1414]

Yea, I know what you mean Easybreath. He seems like he wants to keep the troops in Iraq out of spite.

[chaz]

maybe bush thinks that if we withdraw that shows weakness....

Shouldn't people form the Nato agreement be helping us?

[Pulsifer]

maybe bush thinks that if we withdraw that shows weakness....

Shouldn't people form the Nato agreement be helping us?

Several NATO countries have soldiers in Iraq, but mostly Afghanistan. They're embedded in the Coalition forces, mostly under US command. Even little ol' Norway have a few hundred of our best commandos on the ground, albeit the general populace back home disapproves.

The NATO taking proper action is hindered by the reluctant UN and the fact that few if any of the countries involved want to stick their heads out for the US at this point. If there's an open plea for help, the NATO will come, but there's been a lot of attitude and general scorn and resentment from the US towards both the UN and NATO. One instance of which was appointing John Bolton as the US' UN ambassador. Also, the new Iraqi president is not positive towards NATO troops, but have retained many officers to train and lead the Iraqi army and police forces.

[chaz]

ya i kindof thought that....

[numenorian]

I am back!!!some will say omg that retard again he he...Ill say my negative view once again:P.What most of u(american guys i mean) is that whoever takes the power in your country same thing re goin to happen no matter if the prsident is bush,clinton etc...America is a big country and will keep terifying and rule the world even you admit it or not thats it its so simple.To avoid misundrstandings any goverment that would be in america;s position would do the same.Oh sth related to the topic yes american should have left.

[Andúnië]

Seeing as most of the U.S. population disapproves of the entire Iraq situation, there's a greater possiblity that the newly elected leader will not support the war/occupation/interferrence and attempt to improve international relationships... not that the last is very likely at this point anyways.

[Beren One-Hand]

Iraq is an extremely difficult situation.  Yes, they should probably leave, eventually.  But then what?  It has been shown that the Iraqi security forces can't even stop the attacks - suicide bombings, kidknappings, etc., even inside secured areas.  Peace and stability must be brought to Iraq.  But who will give it to them?  The Iraqi government?  No.  The UN?  No.  The cardinal rule: to never negotiate with terrorists should apply.  But somehow or someway, the insurrgents should be, must be, crushed.  And my guess is that there needs to be more resistence and offensive measures taken towards them by some of the Arab countries.  When you hear reports that several of the terrorist networks are being supported by say, Iran, this seems to be a never-ending fight.  The Arab world must take a leading role in solving these problems, otherwise the chaos will continue forever.

[Christina]

okay... it's been a while since i've been on here, so if i reoeat anyone let me say right now that i'm sorry in advance but i don't have time to read every singel post on this topic. anyway, i reallt do thinkl we should pull out  now considering that saddum is gone, there is anew president over there and everything... it's their country... let them run it but just keep an eye bon them or something, if it looks like they're gonna atacck(sp) us or somrhting again then go back there really quickly... that's it!

[Andúnië]

Beren, you have a very good point. In a way, the U.S. occupancy of Iraq is rather unfair and interferring, but on the other hand, they are unable to manage their country themselves. There is little one country can do to ensure stablity in another, but the surrounding Middle Eastern countries have been at it for hundreds of years. How likely is it for them as a region to reach mutual tolerance, and peace?

[Beren One-Hand]

Good point also. 

Peace in the Middle East seems like an impossibility.  The Middle East doesn't seem to like interference from other countries, and at the same time can't solve their own problems.  It's a very frustrating situation.
Something must be done.  And it would be nice if a country or even more than one country there could take the high road, and rise above all that bad history, and religious/political conflict for the sake of peace.